hard cold engine start

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  1. #1
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    hard cold engine start

    in these really cold temps lately , it takes quite a bit of cranking to get the briggs vanguard to fire up . maybe everyone else in cold weather finds the same . i was just wondering if a primer squeeze bulb in the gas line would help . otherwise it may be just a squirt of carb cleaner in the carb to help get it going . thanks , johnboy va.

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    also choke is on to start . jboy

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    Give it half throttle while cranking at full choke.
    What it lacks in ground clearance it makes up for with traction.

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    I have a squeeze bulb plus as mentioned, full choke, half throttle and it fires up after 3 or 4 revolutions. That's at around the minus 10 Celsius or 14 F . Any colder than that and I don't need to go anywhere so if is colder than that it may not start. I think it would but I really don't care because it isn't going anywhere anyway. Are you using high octane fuel? There also is a difference apparently in winter and summer gas. Maybe where you are located the gas is the same all year round. I know up here the diesel fuel has a summer and winter rating. Tbone9 will know. I'm in the bananna belt compared to his location.
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    thanks guys .... as i crank with full choke i've been pumping the throttle ...so i'm going out now and do half throttle . lets see . does high octane fire up better and is it much better anyway for the briggs ? usually use regular . jboy

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    Just my own experience with the fuel bulb/primer: it helps me a lot. It seems that my fuel like to drain out pretty quickly, and if I don't prime it until I can hear it squirting into the carb bowl then I'm in for a very long crank time (just to get the fuel into the Carb). If your carb and lines are staying full though, then a primer bulb may not help you.
    As for the high octane fuel, there are a few benefits. Depending on where you live, it may contain a smaller percent (or just zero) ethanol in it, which is nice for our small engine fuel lines, gaskets, and pumps which sometimes don't play nicely with ethanol. It also stores a bit better than the ethanol stuff does (ethanol attracts water). I run it in all my small engines, but it's mostly just for the storage benefits.

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    thanks bennett ...i also will check the vacuum line from motor to the fuel pump . if it has a small leak , i may not be getting good pumping until the engine fires up running . does the primer bulb go on the fuel any place before the fuel pump thats easy to get to ? . i usually add some sta bil 360 ethanol treatment additive to the tank . j.b.

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    John you want to put an inline shut off near the tank, any tank vacuum would draw the fuel back in.
    Curious though, does your oil smell like gas?


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    jim ...i do have a shutoff maybe halfway between the tank and fuel pump . i'll check the oil tomorrow for gas smell . so to stop vacuum from drawing fuel back should i shut the valve after running ? seems like it's just in this cold weather it takes more cranking to fire up , otherwise there's been no problem. thanks , j.b.

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    How cold has it been where you live and do you keep your machine indoors when you're not using it? Where I live it's been(relatively speaking) really cold. We had below zero temps for over a week recently, as low as -16?F. Several weeks prior and since of only single digits above zero and a few days with highs in the teens or 20's. My machine is kept in my garage but it's not heated. If I haven't ran it in a week or two it'll need choke to start but it fires in 2-3 seconds usually. If ran more frequently I dont even need choke. I used it to go ice fishing and it sat for probably 45 minutes in below zero temps and it fired right up. Should I consider myself extremely lucky?
    Just wanted to share so you had something to compare to....Cup

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