Mgxpert Consignors - Fraud Scam Scammers

[Dozerlarry]

Note from Admin: This thread was made a sticky because mgxpert consignors are some of the shadiest scammers out there. Read this thread that you are in and then jump to this post (http://www.6x6world.com/forums/ebay-...tml#post152434) for more information on why you shouldn't do business with them.

I apologize to Mike if I've posted in the wrong place here. I've been looking for an AATV close to my house for sale. Ran up on a couple close by on a Google search. They were both priced too cheap I thought, but what the heck, it's only an e-mail. Anyway on one of them I get an e-mail back from this outfit...............http://www.eautomotors-traders.com/.........Just doesn't seem right to me. I was wondering if anybody else had heard of them or done any business with them. The 2nd machine I inquired about was answered by a Air Force Master Sgt in New Jersey. Would ship it free, 5 day inspection, promised all kinds of wonderful stuff. I checked the IP addresses of both mails and they both originated in Mountain View CA. Seems like a large coincidence to me. The automotors bunch has a nice website but apparently can't afford phones. I couldn't find any listed to them. I also did a Google search, no dice, and a Better Business Bureau search, again no luck. Anyway, If anybody thinks this bunch is legit, let me know, if they aren't I wanted to get the word out so nobody here got stuck.

[thebuggyman1]

Any deal that cannot be done with cash in person is a scam. Never wire money. Never allow them your bank account #s. You will be robbed and may never be able to recoup the money. Banking laws are outdated....and the banks don't care about you!

[dzg]

Run the other way. Try craigslist...or the classifieds on here...whats your location?

[Dozerlarry]

Any deal that cannot be done with cash in person is a scam. Never wire money. Never allow them your bank account #s. You will be robbed and may never be able to recoup the money. Banking laws are outdated....and the banks don't care about you!

You're sure right about that Jim. That's one reason I posted this. These guys are so slick that an unwary person could be sucked in.

Run the other way. Try craigslist...or the classifieds on here...whats your location?

I found these adds on a Google search. They looked like private owners trying to sell their own machines. When I inquired I got a reply back from this bunch. They also have adds on Craigslist. I have found several scams on Argos on Craigslist. If they post a phone number they're usually legit. I'm in Florida and I'm trying to find one as close as possible to me. Seems like most Southern folks prefer 4 wheelers. I like to carry cash and if I like something, load it up then and there. I'll try and post the adds if I can.

2004 Argo Avenger 8X8 2004 Argo Avenger 8X8 Avenger 8X8 25Hp with trailer Runs Perfect atv

Here's one of the adds. I couldn't get the other one up. I'll try again tomorrow. As you can see it is really cheap for all you're supposedly getting.

[guyfox]

If it looks to good to be true then it probally is a scam.....and that looks to good to be true to me.....

[dzg]

Either the guy has no clue what that argo is worth...or hes a con man....if its legit then thats a hellacious deal. I would make initial contact through email and then see if you can get a phone number and make a cash transaction.

Even though it looks kinda fishy...i find it odd someone would use something as "obscure" as a 6x6 as bait.

EDIT.

I sent him an email about it...we'll see what he says...

I tried to copy and paste it but must not have took. I asked him some sjmple questions and if he had more pics and maybe a phone number

[thebuggyman1]

Either the guy has no clue what that argo is worth...or hes a con man....if its legit then thats a hellacious deal. I would make initial contact through email and then see if you can get a phone number and make a cash transaction.

Even though it looks kinda fishy...i find it odd someone would use something as "obscure" as a 6x6 as bait

He would know what the Argo is worth.....he bought it at one time. He either paid $20k+ new, or bought it used at the $12k+ it is worth now. Remember that those factory rubber tracks cost $4k? new, windshield about $700?, wiper another $250?, top $800?, brush guard and winch bracket several hundred more.....then the amphibious trailer is another $1000.
Those prices are going by memory from what I've seen before, so they wont be exact, but are close.....feel free to correct them and add the accessories I missed.

We have seen numerous avenger and bigfoot scams on craigslist before. Usually easy to identify by the multiple city listings all over the country, and usually a stolen picture from Ebay or some other ad. This ad at least was written as though they knew something about the machine....just means they are getting more sophisticated.

[dzg]

Well **** i was completly unaware of those scams jim. If thats the case just buy a max

[jpswift1]

It's a scam, avoid it for sure.

[Dozerlarry]

Argo 8x8 for sale - Yakaz For sale

Here is the add for the other machine I inquired about. It has now changed location from Flora MS to Wyoming. The e-mail I got back on this one was from a private owner. But the IP address was the same location as the mail I got back from the etraders bunch. These folks are slick as a peach.

[Dozerlarry]

If it looks to good to be true then it probally is a scam.....and that looks to good to be true to me.....

You know how the old greed factor kicks in sometime. You think maybe this is the deal of the century, guys wife got pregnant, wrecked truck or just needs some quick cash. Naww, that sort of thing never happens to me anyway.

[QUOTE=dzg;149516]Either the guy has no clue what that argo is worth...or hes a con man....if its legit then thats a hellacious deal. I would make initial contact through email and then see if you can get a phone number and make a cash transaction.
I did the e-mail and the guy sent me the website address. They don't seem to have phones and the website says the Argo is stored at one of their "warehouses" and the only way to inspect it is to have it shipped to you. Money sent "up front" of course.

Even though it looks kinda fishy...i find it odd someone would use something as "obscure" as a 6x6 as bait.
That bothers me too. Couldn't be that many people looking for one of these things. I guess selling 6x's and other small items would attract less attention from the Feds that Lear Jets would.

Thanks Mike for the info on the "multi-post button"!!!

[boating2013]

Its a SCAM!!

I was looking for a boat and thought I had found one. However the price seemed to good to be true. Anyways began talking to individuals from Autoregal Transactions. I was told no money up front, they send the boat to my address, I inspect and then pay if happy. Shipping was free and they pay the duty into Canada. Wanted to have a surveyor check boat out first. Asked questions to have done and thats where things became clear. They told me the boat was sold. I went n line and did a transaction anyways, just to see. Well it was there, received a transaction number and an invoice how to pay a downpayment of $2900. Even got a phone call (never answered)

Turns out the phone number is a google number. The web site for company does look very legit. I sent them a lengthy e-mail with questions and all I got in return was...the item is sold. I was able to get the address for them in Georgia. Googled it.....comes back to a UPS Store, not a warehouse as they indicated.

I am convinced Autoregal is a SCAM. Too bad, nice boat great price. And no I am not out one penny

Cheers

[jtb51b]

Not sure if your interested in a Max IV or not but I ran across a heckuva a deal on one in TN recently. If your interested I can send you the guys number,,

Jason

[Dozerlarry]

Not sure if your interested in a Max IV or not but I ran across a heckuva a deal on one in TN recently. If your interested I can send you the guys number,,

Jason

Thanks Jason-I got a Max 4 a few weeks ago. Just put a 3000# Superwinch on it and am trying to get it completely checked out for a Labor Day ride at Boggs and Boulders.

[Mike]

These guys are the scum of all Scammers. I made this thread a sticky and renamed it for better search engine results so that anyone searching online for information about whether or not mgxpert consignors is a fraud or legit could hopefully find it. They are definitely a fraud, 100% scam and not legit. Someone (a member here?) sent me an email today. They were looking at a boat for sale with mgxpert consignors. Mgexpert consignors sent them a link to this thread, only it wasn't this exact thread. They had copied this entire webpage, set up a new domain and hosted a modified version of 6x6 World. They changed everyone's comments to make them look legit. They also found my profile and photoshopped me in the thread saying good things about their company since I was listed as the admin. It's amazing how much time and effort they put into making their scam seem legit.

I don't want to link to their fake site so that it doesn't get any more attention (web traffic) than it deserves but I did want to post here for anyone else that is trying to evaluate whether or not they should do business with these guys. DON'T. Here are some screenshots of the fake site they set up to look like 6x6 World. Compare it to this thread that you are reading right now and see how they changed things. I just took several screen shots and didn't merge them together so please forgive the choppiness of the images below: