New Argo Frontier 650

[DDA]

Can anyone tell me honestly about the new argo frontier 650 hd better than the regular 650 or what and please explain the admiral tranny to me please

[swamp donkey]

I've been trying to understand the tranny my self

[wicked never rest]

The nea tranny is a bad cat in low when turning the opposite side turns back 50% in high range I think 10%.way less stress on every thing it take less hp 2 turn the machine

[swamp donkey]

So it will counter rotate like a split shifting t-20

[smog]

I've been trying to understand the tranny my self

[wicked never rest]

yep

[swamp donkey]

That's Cool man ive been looking at the frontiers where did u get your I would like to test drive one before I made my mind up. I got my max from down in laurel ms but they didn't carry Argo

[mightymaxIV]

Both of the transmissions have advantages and disadvantages. When you turn an admiral transmission you slow the inside wheels down 1/3 speed while the outside wheels turn full speed. The advantage here is that you don't have a power loss and you can steer the machine in the mud a keep the drive going to all six wheels (This is a great advantage in bad mud). In low range you can counter rotate which is good for tight turns on trails and certain other conditions.

The bad part about the admiral is the machine doesn't turn as sharp in the woods in high range and the steering will sometimes feel like your not in complete control. The counter rotation is great for certain conditions but it takes a whole lot of power to counter rotate in thick mud and stress's the drive system. The good news is high range works great for almost everything except pulling out stuck machines.

The old style transmission turns sharper but is not as smooth and takes power from the inside wheels and transferes the power to the outside wheels. The good thing about the old system is you can get the lower 3.3 transmission which is low enough to pull stumps if you want to.

If I were going to run the machines on stock 24" tires I would take the Adimral every time. If I was going to run a set of Adair tracks I would take the old style transmission because the tracks make up for any disadvantage in the mud and the low transmission is simple and reliable. The old style transmission is also easier to control in water.

So there you have it-consider where and under what conditions you are driving and how the machine will be used